Voices of the Framers:

Some Comments on Human Nature, Democracy and Government

 

from Federalist 51:

"Ambition must be made to counteract ambition....It may be a reflection on human nature that such devices should be necessary to control the abuses of government. But what is government itself but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels no government would be necessary....In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself".

John Adams:

And does this foolish woman expect to get rid of an aristocracy?  God Almighty has decreed in the creation of human nature an eternal aristocracy among men.  The world is, always has been, and ever will be governed by it.  All that policy and legislation can do is check force by force.  Arm a power above it and another below it; or if you will, one on its right hand, the other to its left; both able to say to it when it grows mad:  "MANIAC KEEP WITHIN YOUR LIMITS!"

 

There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.  It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy.  It is not true in fact, and appears no where in history.  Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms or simple government, and when unchecked produce the same effects of avarice, violence, and cruelty".

James Madison:

The instability, injustice, and confusion introduced into the public councils have, in truth, been the mortal diseases under which popular governments have everywhere perished.  Measures are too often decided not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority.  As a result, democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.

A properly designed state would check interest with interest, class with class, faction with faction, and one branch of government with another in a harmonious system of mutual frustration.

John Jay:

The better kind of people, by which I mean the people who are orderly and industrious, who are content with their situations, and not uneasy in their circumstances, will be led by the insecurity of property, the loss of confidence in their rulers, and the want of public faith and rectitude, to consider the charms of liberty as imaginary and  delusive.

The people who own the country ought to run it.

Gouverneur Morris:

The mob begin to think and reason.  Poor reptiles!  They bask in the sun and ere noon they will bite.  Depend upon it.  The gentry begin to fear this.

 

If the people should elect, they will never fail to prefer some man of distinguished character or services; some man, if he might so speak, of continental reputation.

William Livingstone:

The people have been and ever will be unfit to retain the exercise of power in their own hands.

 

Thomas Jefferson:

I think that to give them, the supposed aristocrats, power in order to prevent them from doing mischief, is arming them for it and increasing instead of remedying the evil....Nor do I believe it necessary to protect the wealthy; because enough of these will find their way into every branch of the legislature, to protect themselves.

  Who are these guys???? 

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Other Great Thinkers Comment

Plato:

It is not in the natural course of things for the pilot to beg the crew to take his orders....  The sailors are quarreling over the control of the helm; each thinks he ought to be steering the vessel, though he has never learnt navigation and cannot point to any teacher under whom he has served an apprenticeship.  What is more, they assert that navigation is a thing that cannot be taught at all, and are ready to tear to pieces anyone who says that it can.

 

 

 

John Stuart Mill:

The natural tendency of representative government, as of modern civilization, is toward collective mediocrity; and this tendency is increased by all reductions and extensions of the franchise, their effect being to place the principle power in the hands of classes more and more below the highest level of instruction in the community.

 

Jean Jacques Rousseau:

The general will is always right and tends to the public advantage.

(on occasion) the people (are) seduced by private interests, which the credit or eloquence of clever persons substitutes for those of the state; in which case the general will will be one thing, and the result of public deliberations another.

 

Niccolo Machiavelli:

 

The people are more prudent and stable and have better judgment than a prince and it is not without good reason that it is said that the voice of the people is the voice of God.

 

We also see that in the choice of their magistrates they make far better choices than princes; and no people will ever be persuaded to elect a man of inferior character and corrupt habits to any post of dignity, to which a prince is easily influenced in a thousand different ways.